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Broken Winged Birdy
12-11-2007, 03:57 PM
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I find this group facinating, though I don't know howmany of them there are. I have read the testimony of Prophet Matthew Phillip Gill, and a bit of the Book of Jeraneck, I found both unimpressive and not even as well written as the Book of Mormon. (Which for all my criticisms of it, is amazingly well written.) I am trying to procure an email interview with the Prophet, and I wanted to ask you all if ther are any questions you would reccomend for me. what do you think of this guy? He appears to have gathered a somewhat sizable following in his area, is he just as valid as nomral Mormonism, does he make a mockery of Mormonism? (My personal view is that Mormonism is incorrect, but this guy makes a mockery of a religon that I am very fond of.)
Adventus
12-11-2007, 04:01 PM
Why? They aren't the first and I'm sure won't be the last. There is even an LDS movement that believes in the Trinity very similar to most other Christians do!
beckysoup61
12-11-2007, 04:05 PM
Interesting.
If you did end up getting and email interview, you will have to post it and let us know how it has gone.
Broken Winged Birdy
12-11-2007, 04:06 PM
This guy is a bit odd, his "Book of Jeraneck" uses bad grammar, silly names and silly history. (Stonehenge is a Christian temple...) He believes the ancient Britons wereone of the Lost Tribes of Israel and that an Angel gave him plates of Gold. While I disagree with Mormonis, I think this movement just makes mainstream Mormonism look sillier than most people already think it is.
Broken Winged Birdy
12-11-2007, 04:07 PM
Interesting.
If you did end up getting and email interview, you will have to post it and let us know how it has gone.
Oh, yes I will post it, her and on my blog. I will post things here as I get answers. Do you have any questions as a Mormon I could ask him? (I have many already, but not from a very Mormon viewpoint.)
beckysoup61
12-11-2007, 04:16 PM
Oh, yes I will post it, her and on my blog. I will post things here as I get answers. Do you have any questions as a Mormon I could ask him? (I have many already, but not from a very Mormon viewpoint.)
My one and only question so far is why is every Prophet after the Prophet Joseph Smith not a Prophet of God?
SoyLeche
12-11-2007, 04:23 PM
Oh, yes I will post it, her and on my blog. I will post things here as I get answers. Do you have any questions as a Mormon I could ask him? (I have many already, but not from a very Mormon viewpoint.)
My one and only question so far is why is every Prophet after the Prophet Joseph Smith not a Prophet of God?
If I were to venture a guess it would be because of polygamy.
This guy is a bit odd, his "Book of Jeraneck" uses bad grammar, silly names and silly history. (Stonehenge is a Christian temple...) He believes the ancient Britons wereone of the Lost Tribes of Israel and that an Angel gave him plates of Gold. While I disagree with Mormonis, I think this movement just makes mainstream Mormonism look sillier than most people already think it is.
There are a lot of these little groups. Nobody knows who they are, so I'm not worried about them making me look bad.
revtroy
12-12-2007, 08:11 AM
I find this group facinating, though I don't know howmany of them there are. I have read the testimony of Prophet Matthew Phillip Gill, and a bit of the Book of Jeraneck, I found both unimpressive and not even as well written as the Book of Mormon. (Which for all my criticisms of it, is amazingly well written.) I am trying to procure an email interview with the Prophet, and I wanted to ask you all if ther are any questions you would reccomend for me. what do you think of this guy? He appears to have gathered a somewhat sizable following in his area, is he just as valid as nomral Mormonism, does he make a mockery of Mormonism? (My personal view is that Mormonism is incorrect, but this guy makes a mockery of a religon that I am very fond of.)Around here fringe Mormon groups are all over the place. Some take on a new organization with their own prophet. Others just follow folk beliefs of various kinds. Joseph Smith was a firm believer in individual revelations, which as most people use the terms qualify more as inspirations. This was a constant part of his view, from trying to get one of his scribes to translate part of the BoM, to holding a school of the prophets in his house in Nauvoo.
So, with that as a central doctrine it is easy to see why there are many splinter groups. Every man is a potential prophet in that he can receive revelation, but there is only one position of Prophet. The current doctrine is one of domains of responsibility, so you can only legitimately receive revelation for those you are responsible for. This means that only the Prophet can legitimately receive church-wide revelations.
The first split occurred after the death of Joseph Smith as there was no successor picked by Smith. Most followed Brigham Young, but some stayed and formed the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (RLDS), lead by Joseph Smith's son. The RLDS are still around, they've given up the truth claims of Joseph Smith that have been disproved and view the BoM as inspired (as opposed to translated historic) scripture.
All the other offshoots have originated and stayed on the fringe. Occasionally, someone will have "a revelation" and go to LDS leaders with it, sometimes more dramatically/crazily than others. Most of the fringe groups have polygamy as their central difference. They see the discontinuance of it as illegitimate. Since they see it as Joseph Smith taught it--as central to salvation. In this view the founder is a stronger authority than his later successors, particularly since they were essentially forced by the US government to either renounce it or leave.
So, this group really is nothing new.
The jaw-dropper from your post was that you found the BoM amazingly well written. I agree with Mark Twain as to its literary quality. What are you used to reading? ;)
Broken Winged Birdy
12-12-2007, 08:34 AM
The jaw-dropper from your post was that you found the BoM amazingly well written. I agree with Mark Twain as to its literary quality. What are you used to reading? ;)
Well, firstly, me and Mark Twain rarely get along, I think he needs to stick to clever little aphorisms that become cliche super-fast rather than real writing. However, I agree the the Book of Mormon is incredibly boring, but then again so are long sections of the Old Testament. It is well written in that it sounds like OT writing and the King James style is done correctly. (Book of Jeraneck just uses the word "Unto" every other sentence, and usually incorrectly.)
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